Comments on: Child Psychiatry: A Real Science? http://raisingbipolar.com/2010/02/10/child-psychiatry-a-real-science/ Raise: Elevate Or Help Rise To A Higher Position, Raising A Bipolar Teen Tue, 08 May 2012 06:21:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Sark http://raisingbipolar.com/2010/02/10/child-psychiatry-a-real-science/comment-page-1/#comment-337 Sark Mon, 15 Feb 2010 06:19:00 +0000 http://raisingbipolar.com/?p=1680#comment-337 Serious amounts of exercise can work wonders. It is an extremely good way to reduce stress and is an outlet for rage. If you've decided not to medicate, you should definitely keep him exercising. Serious amounts of exercise can work wonders. It is an extremely good way to reduce stress and is an outlet for rage. If you’ve decided not to medicate, you should definitely keep him exercising.

]]> By: HB http://raisingbipolar.com/2010/02/10/child-psychiatry-a-real-science/comment-page-1/#comment-314 HB Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:36:54 +0000 http://raisingbipolar.com/?p=1680#comment-314 I just read an article today about how the DSM manual might be revised to add a different diagnosis for kids with bipolar like symptoms. From http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/10/health/10psych.html "One significant change would be adding a childhood disorder called temper dysregulation disorder with dysphoria, a recommendation that grew out of recent findings that many wildly aggressive, irritable children who have been given a diagnosis of bipolar disorder do not have it. The misdiagnosis led many children to be given powerful antipsychotic drugs, which have serious side effects, including metabolic changes. 'The treatment of bipolar disorder is meds first, meds second and meds third,” said Dr. Jack McClellan, a psychiatrist at the University of Washington who is not working on the manual. 'Whereas if these kids have a behavior disorder, then behavioral treatment should be considered the primary treatment.'" I thought you might find this interesting! HB I just read an article today about how the DSM manual might be revised to add a different diagnosis for kids with bipolar like symptoms. From http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/10/health/10psych.html

“One significant change would be adding a childhood disorder called temper dysregulation disorder with dysphoria, a recommendation that grew out of recent findings that many wildly aggressive, irritable children who have been given a diagnosis of bipolar disorder do not have it.

The misdiagnosis led many children to be given powerful antipsychotic drugs, which have serious side effects, including metabolic changes.

‘The treatment of bipolar disorder is meds first, meds second and meds third,” said Dr. Jack McClellan, a psychiatrist at the University of Washington who is not working on the manual. ‘Whereas if these kids have a behavior disorder, then behavioral treatment should be considered the primary treatment.’”

I thought you might find this interesting!

HB

]]> By: Lola http://raisingbipolar.com/2010/02/10/child-psychiatry-a-real-science/comment-page-1/#comment-312 Lola Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:58:07 +0000 http://raisingbipolar.com/?p=1680#comment-312 My daughter has been on abilify, zyprexa, geodon, seroquel, ativan, zoloft. She is currently on depakote, risperdal, fish oil, folic acid, and wellbutrin. She just recently had increases to the depakote, risperdal and the wellbutrin is new. She's not doing well right now. She gained a tremendous amount of weight from the zyprexa and geodon. While I commend you for trying to stay away from prescription medications, sometimes there is no other way. I've seen my daughter very psychotic and I've seen her catatonic without medications. I belong to a yahoo group where many of the parents are big fans of True Hope Empower Plus. Google it and you will find out more information. Many parents swear by it. It's not something I felt comfortable trying because my daughter has a diagnosis of schizophrenia. Her father has it. I've done tons of reading on it and I'm sure the diagnosis is correct. I don't know what your child's symptoms/diagnosis are, but you may want to look into True Hope. My daughter has been on abilify, zyprexa, geodon, seroquel, ativan, zoloft. She is currently on depakote, risperdal, fish oil, folic acid, and wellbutrin. She just recently had increases to the depakote, risperdal and the wellbutrin is new. She’s not doing well right now.

She gained a tremendous amount of weight from the zyprexa and geodon.

While I commend you for trying to stay away from prescription medications, sometimes there is no other way. I’ve seen my daughter very psychotic and I’ve seen her catatonic without medications. I belong to a yahoo group where many of the parents are big fans of True Hope Empower Plus. Google it and you will find out more information. Many parents swear by it. It’s not something I felt comfortable trying because my daughter has a diagnosis of schizophrenia. Her father has it. I’ve done tons of reading on it and I’m sure the diagnosis is correct. I don’t know what your child’s symptoms/diagnosis are, but you may want to look into True Hope.

]]> By: Stephany http://raisingbipolar.com/2010/02/10/child-psychiatry-a-real-science/comment-page-1/#comment-309 Stephany Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:54:22 +0000 http://raisingbipolar.com/?p=1680#comment-309 well, it looks like i wrote a post! sorry! well, it looks like i wrote a post! sorry!

]]> By: Stephany http://raisingbipolar.com/2010/02/10/child-psychiatry-a-real-science/comment-page-1/#comment-308 Stephany Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:53:48 +0000 http://raisingbipolar.com/?p=1680#comment-308 I remember at the "5 year" mark of the dx being given to my daughter, I sat with her in her psych appt and said to the psychiatrist: "It seems that after 5 years, it's all about what meds she CANNOT take, not what meds work." It's still that way, because these meds have SIDE EFFECTS that are psych symptoms, hell even Zyprexa (antipsychotic) has "schizophrenic reaction" in the fine print, and most ALL of the meds have "psychosis" and mood change, irritability, aggression...as a side effect. But, you take that paper to the psych and say "I think this is what is happening", as I did, and they only want to address the fatigue or dry mouth, because of course those symptoms, are what they are treating, right? it's the worst chicken before the egg discussion, and then a psych would have to end his practice if he stopped rx'ing drugs, because then he'd be a therapist or some other profession. The main thing learned quickly by people is that psychiatrists are based on a medication based therapy, and if you go to one, you WILL be placed on or offered meds, that's their job. Read this http://bipolarsoupkitchen-stephany.blogspot.com/2009/08/2007-apa-meeting-pharma-funding.html article where I posted the 2007 APA funding disclosures for most of the main bipolar children KOL's (Key Opinion Leaders)and you'll see what it is--not science, it's a BUSINESS, it's all about pharma. Their studies are pharma funded, they take money and not disclose it (and get investigated by Senator Grassley)...the studies end up skewed or cooked to make the drug the company is selling look like it's the one that works...Biederman at Harvard is under investigation for money he pocketed, as well as a protocol breach in the child Risperdal study. After all of that, then sit back and wonder what the hell has happened? We've been duped by a marketing scam bigger than life, and it's making profits off of our children, and killing them too--Rebecca Riley is prime example, and now, her mother is convicted of murder...but the psychiatrist who prescribed the drugs would only testify with IMMUNITY. (and isn't convicted of a crime). I remember at the “5 year” mark of the dx being given to my daughter, I sat with her in her psych appt and said to the psychiatrist: “It seems that after 5 years, it’s all about what meds she CANNOT take, not what meds work.” It’s still that way, because these meds have SIDE EFFECTS that are psych symptoms, hell even Zyprexa (antipsychotic) has “schizophrenic reaction” in the fine print, and most ALL of the meds have “psychosis” and mood change, irritability, aggression…as a side effect. But, you take that paper to the psych and say “I think this is what is happening”, as I did, and they only want to address the fatigue or dry mouth, because of course those symptoms, are what they are treating, right? it’s the worst chicken before the egg discussion, and then a psych would have to end his practice if he stopped rx’ing drugs, because then he’d be a therapist or some other profession.

The main thing learned quickly by people is that psychiatrists are based on a medication based therapy, and if you go to one, you WILL be placed on or offered meds, that’s their job.

Read this

http://bipolarsoupkitchen-stephany.blogspot.com/2009/08/2007-apa-meeting-pharma-funding.html

article where I posted the 2007 APA funding disclosures for most of the main bipolar children KOL’s (Key Opinion Leaders)and you’ll see what it is–not science, it’s a BUSINESS, it’s all about pharma. Their studies are pharma funded, they take money and not disclose it (and get investigated by Senator Grassley)…the studies end up skewed or cooked to make the drug the company is selling look like it’s the one that works…Biederman at Harvard is under investigation for money he pocketed, as well as a protocol breach in the child Risperdal study.

After all of that, then sit back and wonder what the hell has happened?

We’ve been duped by a marketing scam bigger than life, and it’s making profits off of our children, and killing them too–Rebecca Riley is prime example, and now, her mother is convicted of murder…but the psychiatrist who prescribed the drugs would only testify with IMMUNITY. (and isn’t convicted of a crime).

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